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How to Teach Students about Authenticity and Courage in Class

How do we create a space for authenticity and courage in the classroom? How can build shame resiliency in students? How do we help students who over-identify with their failures recognize that they are worthy of love and belonging?

This episode of “Seen: An Erasing Shame Podcast” explores these questions with educator and therapist Shelia Sutton. Shelia is part of a team of four educators who wrote the integration plans for Brené Brown’s Daring Classrooms. Eunice and Shelia talk about recognizing shame triggers, overcoming shame storms and the importance of connection in becoming our authentic self.

This is a wonderful episode for educators and also for anyone who wants to grow in their shame resilience journey.


Daring Classrooms Integration Plans

Instagram: @sheteachesschool

Twitter: @sheliadsutton

Shelia Sutton

Joy Starts Here by Jim Wilder, Ed Khouri, Chris Coursey, & Shelia Sutton

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[Seen 4] A Conversation About Postpartum Depression and Anxiety

“When we’re talking about shame—and so much of shame manifests itself in silence and what we don’t say and what we don’t share—to find the courage and bravery within yourself to put these things out there, that you’re having a hard time and you need help… That’s strong, that’s being a strong mom. That’s doing your work to face shame.” —Emily Schnitger, LMFT

On this episode of “Seen: An Erasing Shame Podcast,” Eunice connects with Emily Schnitger, a therapist who specializes in maternal mental health and is trained in perinatal mood and anxiety disorders.

Postpartum depression can be as stigmatized in our culture as mental health in general because our families often do not have the language to discuss this topic. Emily provides insight and experience working with new moms, and advice on how to support moms who may struggle with postpartum.

Show Notes

To contact Emily:

Postpartum Support International:

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[Seen 3] Hollywood Representation & Crazy Rich Asians

On this episode of “Seen: An Erasing Shame Podcast,” Senior Reporter at the Hollywood Reporter Rebecca Sun joins Eunice Lee to discuss the history of Asian-American representation in the media, the effects of whitewashing, and the triumph of seeing Asian-American representation on screen.

“Onscreen representation matters. It gives words or it gives visuals to experiences that we feel, and it validates them. It’s literally like a mirror. Why do we check ourselves out in a mirror? To make sure that what we are feeling is what’s indeed being presented, understood and conveyed accurately. And so when you don’t have representation, it’s like you’ve been walking through this world without a mirror. You are completely not in control of how you’re being perceived.”

– Rebecca Sun

*** CORRECTION: the podcast Eunice mentioned is called “They Call Us Bruce” by Phil Yu and Jeff Yang


Angry Asian Man –

Coalition of Asian Pacifics in Entertainment –

Reel Inequality: Hollywood Actors and Racism” by Nancy Wang Yuen #book

Behind the Scenes at The Hollywood Reporter’s ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ Cover Shoot” in The Hollywood Reporter (August 2, 2018) #article

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(Photo Credit: Ramona Rosales/Carol McColgin)
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[Seen 2] Developing Effective Cancer Treatments for Asian Americans

“Asian-Americans haven’t been included in the process of cancer research. Recent clinical trials helping develop new drugs or therapies show that Asian-Americans only represent about 3% of people in those studies. As a result, a lot of the drugs that are currently available for cancer treatments may not be effective within our own populations.”

Eunice Lee Therapy ( talks with Colleen Nguyen (  of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard ( about the silence around the topic of cancer and the gap in creating cancer therapies for Asian-Americans. Colleen is leading community engagement efforts for Count Me In, a new model of cancer research that hopes to reach people where they are. 

Erasing Shame hopes to promote emotional, physical and mental health. Please share this video and information with friends, family and anyone who has been touched with cancer, and feel free to contact Colleen or fill out this form to further cancer research in the Asian-American community.

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[Seen 1] A Conversation about Race, Power and Privilege in the Asian-American Experience

Adrian Pei, author of The Minority Experience, chats with Eunice Lee about race, power, privilege and pain in the minority experience. He discusses his own journey as an Asian-American in navigating large organizations and the injustices of not being heard and feeling “other.”

Adrian talks about the journey that our brothers and sisters of color in paving the way for Asian-American voices to be heard, and the reality that the decisions of diversity are not just a strategic decision, but an emotional one.

Eunice and Adrian dialogue about the realities of the gift and pain of the minority experience, their own stories of pain and solutions for change.

You can find his book at

The Minority Experience: Navigating Emotional and Organizational Realities by Adrian Pei